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Title: summary: Who is gonna have LF3 (or modified ver.) / full zygomatic osteotomy ?
Post by: Rico on May 30, 2015, 12:27:35 AM
Please tell me. Since I'm gonna have surgical procedure close to this, I would know better with whom I can talk here...also I have some good ideas - but this in priv
Title: Re: summary: Who is gonna have LF3 (or modified ver.) / full zygomatic osteotomy ?
Post by: Optimistic on May 30, 2015, 06:02:18 AM
Please tell me. Since I'm gonna have surgical procedure close to this, I would know better with whom I can talk here...also I have some good ideas - but this in priv

We already talk in private ;)
Title: Re: summary: Who is gonna have LF3 (or modified ver.) / full zygomatic osteotomy ?
Post by: Rico on May 30, 2015, 06:13:48 AM
OK. that's why I created this thread. Now I can see here who is gonna have this. You know too many messages / threads....
Title: Re: summary: Who is gonna have LF3 (or modified ver.) / full zygomatic osteotomy ?
Post by: Mark505 on May 30, 2015, 06:21:09 AM
well as I said it before, I'm cosidering high-lefort stuff since only this is viewable way to revert my face to closer what is used to be. However due to mixed opinion among surgeons, lack of documented non-sydromic cases, level of invasiveness, possibility of uncertain aesthetic results, post op complications and heavily fluctuating price, it's questionable how I will pull this plan into realisation.
Title: Re: summary: Who is gonna have LF3 (or modified ver.) / full zygomatic osteotomy ?
Post by: Rico on May 30, 2015, 06:48:04 AM
do it in my way... just keep looking for right surgeon for reasonable price.. sending mails does not cost. remember an e-mail can go into SPAM folder. To reduce the risk, send description in first message (there should be information you are gonna send files), right after that, send another with files, but do not exceed 2MB. Just some good pictures, X-Rays, CT, your photos... most of us already know what kind of pictures are helpful for surgeons.

at some point you will notice, that generally you made enough number of consultations, then you will have ask yourself is it worth, or more simply can you live with this or not...if not - then undergo, if can - leave it. You won't have guarantee. From what I see you have not reached this point yet, but you are close ;)
Title: Re: summary: Who is gonna have LF3 (or modified ver.) / full zygomatic osteotomy ?
Post by: baldguy83 on May 31, 2015, 06:22:20 AM
I'm planning to undergo a zygomatic osteotomy.
Title: Re: summary: Who is gonna have LF3 (or modified ver.) / full zygomatic osteotomy ?
Post by: Mark505 on May 31, 2015, 07:25:19 AM
I'm planning to undergo a zygomatic osteotomy.

full zygo or ZSO?
Title: Re: summary: Who is gonna have LF3 (or modified ver.) / full zygomatic osteotomy ?
Post by: Optimistic on May 31, 2015, 08:20:04 PM
full zygo or ZSO?

99.9999% he would mean ZSO. f**king ZSO. I hate that operation. Sad thing is I will probably get it myself if I can't find someone to touch my infraorbital rims.
Title: Re: summary: Who is gonna have LF3 (or modified ver.) / full zygomatic osteotomy ?
Post by: Rico on June 01, 2015, 11:43:31 AM
Optimistic: you know which surgeon / surgeons perform LF3 in non-syndromic patient. What's the problem ;) ? and you know which surgeons have potential to do it - you have just to ask

many surgeon's names were typed on this forum

so :) ?
Title: Re: summary: Who is gonna have LF3 (or modified ver.) / full zygomatic osteotomy ?
Post by: Optimistic on June 01, 2015, 07:17:23 PM
Optimistic: you know which surgeon / surgeons perform LF3 in non-syndromic patient. What's the problem ;) ? and you know which surgeons have potential to do it - you have just to ask

many surgeon's names was typed on this forum

so :) ?

Some days I look in the mirror and it's not say bad :) Makes me think I'm crazy for considering it, and a doctor would be crazy to do it.

We will wait until I send more scans off to the doctors. I know which ones to approach.
Title: Re: summary: Who is gonna have LF3 (or modified ver.) / full zygomatic osteotomy ?
Post by: Rico on June 02, 2015, 08:12:51 AM
Optimistic: when I look at your picture (avatar) I think everything is OK  :D
Title: Re: summary: Who is gonna have LF3 (or modified ver.) / full zygomatic osteotomy ?
Post by: baldguy83 on June 02, 2015, 02:22:01 PM
full zygo or ZSO?

The one dr. Z performs, I'm guessing ZSO? I don't think it touches the infraorbital rim.
Title: Re: summary: Who is gonna have LF3 (or modified ver.) / full zygomatic osteotomy ?
Post by: baldguy83 on June 02, 2015, 02:22:55 PM
99.9999% he would mean ZSO. f**king ZSO. I hate that operation. Sad thing is I will probably get it myself if I can't find someone to touch my infraorbital rims.

Why do you 'hate' ZSO? Because it doesn't address infraorbital rim weakness?
Title: Re: summary: Who is gonna have LF3 (or modified ver.) / full zygomatic osteotomy ?
Post by: Optimistic on June 03, 2015, 07:13:15 AM
Why do you 'hate' ZSO? Because it doesn't address infraorbital rim weakness?

ZSO doesn't address some of the main issues people presenting with weak malars have. Flat malars are coupled with recessed midface/infraorbital rims mostly. Adding width to that isn't doing a whole lot. The entire thing needs to be brought forwards.
Title: Re: summary: Who is gonna have LF3 (or modified ver.) / full zygomatic osteotomy ?
Post by: baldguy83 on June 04, 2015, 08:20:43 AM
I see. I am seeing dr. Z again tomorrow, I will ask him about this (anterior movement).
Title: Re: summary: Who is gonna have LF3 (or modified ver.) / full zygomatic osteotomy ?
Post by: Apotheosis on June 04, 2015, 06:14:08 PM
Very interested in this procedure and will soon consult with Sinn. I'll probably have to get Sarpe first though.
Title: Re: summary: Who is gonna have LF3 (or modified ver.) / full zygomatic osteotomy ?
Post by: PloskoPlus on June 04, 2015, 07:25:55 PM
I see. I am seeing dr. Z again tomorrow, I will ask him about this (anterior movement).
Try to see MALE before and afters.
Title: Re: summary: Who is gonna have LF3 (or modified ver.) / full zygomatic osteotomy ?
Post by: Rico on June 04, 2015, 11:44:14 PM
this topic is generally about full osteotomies, not some partial like ZSO ;) but OK
Title: Re: summary: Who is gonna have LF3 (or modified ver.) / full zygomatic osteotomy ?
Post by: terry947 on August 13, 2015, 01:01:20 AM
Looks like the cut on the left is moved in the horizontal plane while the cut on the right is moved diagonally.

Also it seems like the cut on the right would create more volume...?

Title: Re: summary: Who is gonna have LF3 (or modified ver.) / full zygomatic osteotomy ?
Post by: baldguy83 on August 13, 2015, 07:41:59 AM
Whatever you do Lissa, stay away from Mommaerts. If you don't, you will regret it for the rest of your life.
Title: Re: summary: Who is gonna have LF3 (or modified ver.) / full zygomatic osteotomy ?
Post by: molestrip on August 13, 2015, 01:08:29 PM
I wonder if he realizes what his reputation is online and that he has a nickname. I don't get the impression that other surgeons think highly of his practice either.
Title: Re: summary: Who is gonna have LF3 (or modified ver.) / full zygomatic osteotomy ?
Post by: Gregor Samsa on August 13, 2015, 01:37:15 PM
If I were to collect the comments made by various surgeons around the world regarding Mommaerts' shoddy work then I'm sure he would lose his medical license. It is that bad. Unfortunately he is still highly regarded amongst his peers due to some of the research he has done and he keeps getting invited to speak at conferences etc.
Title: Re: summary: Who is gonna have LF3 (or modified ver.) / full zygomatic osteotomy ?
Post by: Rico on August 16, 2015, 08:54:26 AM
Lissa: Both lines cut you asked about go throught tiny zygomatic nerves.

Since most patients do not complain postop about bad feeling on the side of cheek ...be aware about this small issue
Title: Re: summary: Who is gonna have LF3 (or modified ver.) / full zygomatic osteotomy ?
Post by: GrendelGegongan on August 16, 2015, 01:45:11 PM
I am going for Lefort III hopefully with Dr. Z
Title: Re: summary: Who is gonna have LF3 (or modified ver.) / full zygomatic osteotomy ?
Post by: baldguy83 on August 16, 2015, 01:51:20 PM
Dr. Z doesn't do modded lefortIIIs on non-syndromics, afaik.

True. Don't bother asking Dr. Z to perform a LF3, unless you suffer from Crouzon syndrome or something like that.
Title: Re: summary: Who is gonna have LF3 (or modified ver.) / full zygomatic osteotomy ?
Post by: Charles-Guillaume on August 19, 2015, 02:59:28 AM
My face is about 5.5 inches wide (bizygomatic) but it would have to be around 5.8 inches to be properly proportional (it's pretty long at 7.9 inches). I suppose that this could be accomplished with some kind of osteotomy.

Title: Re: summary: Who is gonna have LF3 (or modified ver.) / full zygomatic osteotomy ?
Post by: terry947 on August 19, 2015, 06:43:40 PM
7.9 inches isnt that long for a male
Title: Re: summary: Who is gonna have LF3 (or modified ver.) / full zygomatic osteotomy ?
Post by: Rico on August 20, 2015, 12:52:39 PM
hmm it's quite big penis ;)
Title: Re: summary: Who is gonna have LF3 (or modified ver.) / full zygomatic osteotomy ?
Post by: triot on August 20, 2015, 01:08:56 PM
hmm it's quite big penis ;)

LMAO.