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General Category => General Chat => Topic started by: Tom2 on August 16, 2015, 05:52:26 PM
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As I progress forward, I now find myself considering additional work - maybe jaw implants, maybe a little rhino, maybe a little lipo under the neck.....maybe butt or boob implants...
You know.....
It's like painting one room's ceiling in your house and realizing you have to paint them all now....
So what have you considered or done and tell us about it.....curious minds want to know...
(could never do boob implants....I'd never leave the house....)
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Yes.
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Not really :-X. I'm not a fan of cosmetic surgery unless it's to correct a serious condition so it's not something I have ever considered . I also hate the plastic look , it reminds me of that story about that guy suing/divorcing his wife because he found her pre-cosmetic surgery photos (she had a lot) ;D
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I see your point....and as for the guy who divorced the woman after finding the photos.....I totally get that.
But...
I'mma old man. Already married, already built a career and had kids.
I'm not tricking anyone or cheating the system. I did it all the way I was born. Now I just want some satisfaction.
I'm thinking jaw, sub malar, malar, maybe a nose..... you know.. I'll be ready for the movies....babahahahahahaaaa
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Most cosmetic surgery looks crap. More maxillofacial for me.
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I see your point....and as for the guy who divorced the woman after finding the photos.....I totally get that.
But...
I'mma old man. Already married, already built a career and had kids.
I'm not tricking anyone or cheating the system. I did it all the way I was born. Now I just want some satisfaction.
I'm thinking jaw, sub malar, malar, maybe a nose..... you know.. I'll be ready for the movies....babahahahahahaaaa
LOL! but if you're indeed an old man and happily married then what's the point? All that pain and recovery time ...I'd just take that money and go on an extended vacation :P ;D
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Because I want the pretty girls to hold there look on me for just a moment longer.
Because I want to see something nice in the mirror before I kick off.
Because I want to see how the 'normal' people live and interact with each other.
Because I don't want to feel those assumptions people make because you look a certain way.
Because I'm still going on vacation anyways....
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I see what you mean , but "normal" is subjective ;) I just despise discomfort , the fact that I have to wait a whole year to finally see how this mess will play out is killing me :o
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I had a hard time at one point accepting just how long recovery is.
I've never been 'down' physically. When I heard I would be back to work in a month, I internalized that as I would be good to go in a month. When I went back to work after a month I was not, NOT, good to go. I was struggling to talk, eat and be discomfort free. Hell, I was in pain. I ran across someone who had the surgery and they told me to 'give it 9 months'. That was NOT what I wanted to hear and I was really regretting the surgery. I was also dead set against any surgery ever again.....
Things change....
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I had a hard time at one point accepting just how long recovery is.
I've never been 'down' physically. When I heard I would be back to work in a month, I internalized that as I would be good to go in a month. When I went back to work after a month I was not, NOT, good to go. I was struggling to talk, eat and be discomfort free. Hell, I was in pain. I ran across someone who had the surgery and they told me to 'give it 9 months'. That was NOT what I wanted to hear and I was really regretting the surgery. I was also dead set against any surgery ever again.....
Things change....
It really must be the BSSO part of bimax. I only had a LF1, I was completely back to normal in 3 weeks. But here I am stuck with possibly permanent nerve damage. Even steven, can't get ahead ever.
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Yep. Even though the maxillofacial work has already massively improved my looks I'm now looking to 'perfect' it with a rhinoplasty and otoplasty :)
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It seems like a lot of people undergo orthognathic surgery just to improve/change their look. In my case I didn't want my face changing , I just needed my bite corrected and the TMJ gone. I keep thinking I made a mistake going through it. Nerve damage/ possibly wonky square face is not worth it.
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I needed the surgery for sleep apnea, over bite, over jet, unstable teeth and possible early tooth loss.
I wanted it so I could look nicer. I didn't hate my face. I hated how the world reacted to it.
I can see a difference in how people react to me already. I can see room for improvement but I also don't want to end up going too far......
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I'll scrounge up some pre/post side profiles. Its a big difference. Not great - I've seen better but it was a big improvement for me.
Hard part is finding pre op pics. I wasn't exactly looking to be in photos pre op. Now I actually like them. I'm currently sporting some facial hair - another thing I would never do before.... I also wear hats less often. Can't wait for the braces to come off and see the smile results. Maybe I'll start smiling for the first time since I was a kid.
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How long until braces come off?
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I'll scrounge up some pre/post side profiles. Its a big difference. Not great - I've seen better but it was a big improvement for me.
Hard part is finding pre op pics. I wasn't exactly looking to be in photos pre op. Now I actually like them. I'm currently sporting some facial hair - another thing I would never do before.... I also wear hats less often. Can't wait for the braces to come off and see the smile results. Maybe I'll start smiling for the first time since I was a kid.
Ask for your surgeon's clinical preop photos.
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Next month Nat - for me. Can;t wait.
Plosko - no way..... Those photos make me cringe. They take them without you being able to compensate. for the deficiencies. I HATED THAT!!!!
My ortho guy pulled them up on his screen when I returned after the surgery so we could look at how ugly and deformed I was before we started the entire process a couple years ago. Yay....that was fun to look at..... (hear my sarcasm???)
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To answer the original question in the thread:
No additional surgeries for me if I live thru my surgery plan.
BUT, I am on the pro-surgery side of the fence for anyone who wants it.
Hahahaaa...you say that now......I;m telling you.....after the surgery swelling settles down, you start to think about what else you could do - I can see how this gets addictive for some as you see yourself improving in the eyes of others and yourself.
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FaceNit:
We went into it with no guarantees about the TMD issues. His statement was pretty much some improve, many stay the same, some have gotten worse. No promises, no expectations.
Everything I have read - there is no reliable TMD treatment and what has worked for some may not work for others and worsening is widespread.
Before surgery:
I could open as wide as about any person but to do so would mean my left side TMJ would pop and there would be pain at times - sometimes just waking up in the morning was painful. My right side never had any issues or pain.
Post surgery during the first few weeks and months of recovery I experienced the normal soreness and limited range of motion as any patient. This continued into a time of worsening pain into sever pain with any jaw movement on my left side TMD. Sidenote: I hate the effects of the drugs on me and 3 days after surgery refused all pain meds). The pain on my left side became so sever I took the heavy pain pills the gave me. Further, I was convinced I was screwed and that my jaw would never function correctly again because the pain would be so acute and severe.
It subsided. Thankfully. But then my right side started up. My right side TMJ started to feel like there were tiny pebbles in it that made this uncomfortable crunching sound/feel as the jaw opened and closed. Dammit! There was no way this would heal - I was screwed. It subsided. Thankfully,
Currently about 5.5 months post op. The jaw opens and closes pain and popping free. My range of motion is limited to 2 fingers wide. I have been here for a while and it hasn't improved for a while now. I can get into a hamburger so if it never improves - I'll be ok. But given unexpected improvements, I haven;t given up yet.
Note: When I was having my TMJ issues, I looked up remedies. Now I will be the first to admit that I have no idea if this actually worked BUT one exercise I found did really seem to help. So, part of my problem was my whole life I spent moving my lower jaw forward to do so many things but now since my jaws lined up this was no linger necessary. But, and we all have heard of muscle memory, my muscles were't adapted to the new position of the jaws. Instinctively, the wanted to make the old movement. So, I found this exercise where you open and close your mouth but keeping your tongue to the top of your mouth as you do it. This build new muscle memory and helps does so with your jaws making the correct movement (even and back to the same beginning).
So FN, I know this was more of an answer than you asked for but I wanted to try to give a full account and maybe just maybe somebody else out there will read this and find some hope and help in this when they are getting prepared for surgery or recovering from it.