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General Category => Functional Surgery Questions => Topic started by: stupidjaws on May 24, 2013, 03:13:42 PM

Title: Re: Paranasal projection
Post by: stupidjaws on May 24, 2013, 03:13:42 PM
yeah it seems that in this case she gained mid face projection...good
Title: Re: Paranasal projection
Post by: stupidjaws on May 24, 2013, 03:35:27 PM
yeah could be...but ccw is our only option...even because steep occlusal planes post surgery are pretty ugly
Title: Re: Paranasal projection
Post by: stupidjaws on May 24, 2013, 03:37:50 PM
http://www.arnettgunson.com/fab-treatment-planning/face/general-considerations (http://www.arnettgunson.com/fab-treatment-planning/face/general-considerations) (girl in the right)
Title: Re: Paranasal projection
Post by: stupidjaws on May 24, 2013, 03:42:33 PM
I think it was a mistake to reduce her lower jaw (which was already small to begin with). She needed more CCW and some mandibular advancement. Her surgeon is setting her up for sleep apnea down the road.

maybe
Title: Re: Paranasal projection
Post by: terraincognita on May 24, 2013, 08:32:04 PM
Hello people commenting on my photos.
I'm Terra from openbiteblog and I just wanted to clarify that I am more than happy with my results. I had my lower jaw brought back because my upper jaw could not be advanced any more than it was with surgery, which was 3mm or I would look like a baboon. It was easily visible in the imaging and my surgeon agreed that it would not be aesthetically pleasing.
From seeing my surgeons previous cases and his style of surgery I was more than happy with what he did and I made it clear exactly how I wanted my chin and that I wanted the vertical drop on my lower jaw reduced as much as possible. Basically I wanted a straight jaw line.
Also to the person saying i was being "set up for sleep apnea"
I had severe sleep apnea prior to jaw surgery.
I used to have many nights where i would wake up with my throat collapsed and couldn't breathe. Since jaw surgery I haven't had any breathing issues. I can actually breathe perfectly through my nose for the first time in my life.

Thanks everyone who had nice things to say. Means a lot. It's been a tough road and I am more than happy that my sleep apnea is resolved, I no longer have chronic TMJ pain, and I can chew normally. To me the physical changes feel like a huge bonus.
Title: Re: Paranasal projection
Post by: x on May 25, 2013, 01:01:17 AM
Hey terra, I can't say I've read all your posts (a bit drunk right now tbh) but just wanted to say I used your pics because your pre surgery malocclusion status is very very similar to my own. Anterior open bite, cross bite, class 3 with a convex profile, etc.


anyhow I think to a limited extent I can extrapolate some of your results to my own (but soft tissue difference definitely suggest different results). just wanted to say you were already very attractive before and your results made you more so (while still maintaining your individual features that make you unique)

Check your PM's, I think I can learn a bit from you
Title: Re: Paranasal projection
Post by: stupidjaws on May 25, 2013, 01:02:45 AM
Hey terra, I can't say I've read all your posts (a bit drunk right now tbh) but just wanted to say I used your pics because your pre surgery malocclusion status is very very similar to my own. Anterior open bite, cross bite, class 3 with a convex profile, etc.


anyhow I think to a limited extent I can extrapolate some of your results to my own (but soft tissue difference definitely suggest different results). just wanted to say you were already very attractive before and your results made you more so (while still maintaining your individual features that make you unique)

Check your PM's, I think I can learn a bit from you

euphoria, you gotta control this alcohol problem. you're not a teen anymore and coming back home at 3 am drunk is not the way a young adult should behave.

Repent
Title: Re: Paranasal projection
Post by: x on May 25, 2013, 01:13:45 AM
euphoria, you gotta control this alcohol problem. you're not a teen anymore and coming back home at 3 am drunk is not the way a young adult should behave.

Repent
Guilty as charged.

I have work tomorrow morning too, no excuses. forgive me based SJ
Title: Re: Paranasal projection
Post by: pekay on May 25, 2013, 01:16:59 AM
I'm more curious about her skin care regimen

Title: Re: Paranasal projection
Post by: stupidjaws on May 25, 2013, 01:26:07 AM
Guilty as charged.

I have work tomorrow morning too, no excuses. forgive me based SJ

it shall not happen again.
Title: Re: Paranasal projection
Post by: x on May 25, 2013, 01:53:42 AM
it shall not happen again.
man there's a thom yorke gif I want to post so bad but I can't because I'm mobile
Title: Re: Paranasal projection
Post by: stupidjaws on May 25, 2013, 04:30:00 AM
LOL link it!!
Title: Re: Paranasal projection
Post by: x on May 25, 2013, 09:57:22 AM
(http://www.thestrut.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/thomgif.gif)
Title: Re: Paranasal projection
Post by: pekay on May 25, 2013, 02:17:11 PM
this girl gained plenty of projection

sadly her movements aren't listed

(http://i.imgur.com/Vr7nHUt.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Kf5P6ds.jpg)
Title: Re: Paranasal projection
Post by: x on May 25, 2013, 02:20:34 PM
this girl gained plenty of projection

sadly her movements aren't listed

(http://i.imgur.com/Vr7nHUt.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Kf5P6ds.jpg)
yeah, her paranasal area looks great too! That is the exact type of result I'm looking for, if I got that cheekbone projection seems like it'd be more of a nonissue

good find pekay
Title: Re: Paranasal projection
Post by: CK on May 25, 2013, 02:26:06 PM
i agree she gained more projection, but OT was the rounding of her lower face preventable at all? before her lower jaw sort of sloped down, now ur facial type is a straight up U. like 90* laterally. am i the only one seeing this?

Title: Re: Paranasal projection
Post by: x on May 25, 2013, 02:29:39 PM
i agree she gained more projection, but OT was the rounding of her lower face preventable at all? before her lower jaw sort of sloped down, now ur facial type is a straight up U. like 90* laterally. am i the only one seeing this?


No I see it too. I actually have that inward groove on the face from cheekbone to jawline and really like it, don't want to lose it like she did. Maybe cause her mandible was set back?
Title: Re: Paranasal projection
Post by: pekay on May 25, 2013, 02:30:36 PM
i agree she gained more projection, but OT was the rounding of her lower face preventable at all? before her lower jaw sort of sloped down, now ur facial type is a straight up U. like 90* laterally. am i the only one seeing this?


I think her surgeon did that "on purpose", says on his CV that he is a proud member of the Arnett Foundation

or who knows... maybe it isn't preventable at all

I think it suits certain people really well
Title: Re: Paranasal projection
Post by: CK on May 25, 2013, 02:34:22 PM
I think her surgeon did that "on purpose", says on his CV that he is a proud member of the Arnett Foundation

or who knows... maybe it isn't preventable at all

I think it suits certain people really well

maybe it's just tastes i guess. ur thoughts?
Title: Re: Paranasal projection
Post by: Heavyweight on May 25, 2013, 02:35:05 PM
this girl gained plenty of projection

sadly her movements aren't listed

(http://i.imgur.com/Vr7nHUt.jpg)


^^I really like this result because her upper lip retained its curl as her maxilla was advanced. I don't know why the upper lip flattens in other cases, such as this:

(http://i.imgur.com/VnOWv8g.jpg)

Were these done by the same surgeon?
Title: Re: Paranasal projection
Post by: pekay on May 25, 2013, 03:44:37 PM
Were these done by the same surgeon?

no sir, different surgeons

Title: Re: Paranasal projection
Post by: Cmonster on May 25, 2013, 08:07:39 PM
this girl gained plenty of projection

sadly her movements aren't listed

(http://i.imgur.com/Vr7nHUt.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Kf5P6ds.jpg)

I think her results are really good- she looks soft and feminine (something I consider aesthetically pleasing), strong jaws and chins work with some faces but not others...  Is it possible to get the bite right AND maintain lower face shape- it seems tricky. Wish I understood the mechanics behind this.
Title: Re: Paranasal projection
Post by: pekay on May 26, 2013, 11:33:27 AM
maybe it's just tastes i guess. ur thoughts?

I think it suited this guy's face really well

(http://i.imgur.com/dUi7dEJ.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Ec6Ea6Y.jpg)