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General Category => Aesthetics => Topic started by: Lefortitude on August 31, 2018, 07:33:11 PM
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(https://imgur.com/a/lS61ddV)
Photoshop? Lighting? Makeup?
I feel its disingenuous for surgery centers to post before and afters like this. It looks to me like she got an amazing result regardless of the trickery.
https://imgur.com/a/lS61ddV
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Based on the bottom banner, I believe this is an Alfaro result, for anyone wondering.
It looks like lighting, makeup, hair, eye squinting, a rhino, etc... can't objectively tell what was done vs got camouflaged by all of the above. Deceptive and yet convinces the masses to go consult with him.
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These are serious medical procedures. I feel a bit scared regarding how this is marketed. Anything but before and after pictures taken with same conditions should be acceptable. These pictures almost never show the bite in detail either, which should be the primary goal for a serious surgeon.
But yes, it looks like a good result. What do you think about the area around neck and shoulders, looks like much sharper lines. Is this depending on lightning and how the head is tilted, or something else? These are subtle changes in the picture that makes the overall impression better, but not necessarily an effect of the surgery.
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How did her eyes go from negative canthal tilt to positive. Seems fake to me.
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How did her eyes go from negative canthal tilt to positive. Seems fake to me.
This was the biggest thing for me. That is a big deal. My first thought was that she had some filler under her eyes.
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Hard to opine on the marketing in absence of context of how photo was presented. An IMGUR image of just the photo does not tell us much. Can you put up a link to the CONTEXT of the photo presentation.
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Too much content on his site for me to search for where on it the photo is found other than to say he lists that he does a bunch of cosmetic procedures similar to what PSs do. So, she may have had more than just the jaw balancing surgery.
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Hard to opine on the marketing in absence of context of how photo was presented. An IMGUR image of just the photo does not tell us much. Can you put up a link to the CONTEXT of the photo presentation.
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Too much content on his site for me to search for where on it the photo is found other than to say he lists that he does a bunch of cosmetic procedures similar to what PSs do. So, she may have had more than just the jaw balancing surgery.
it was on his instagram, and the result is not on his website.
Heres a link to his instagram https://www.instagram.com/maxillofacialbcn/
The full post can be found here. Any context found was negligible. The caption is the only applicable context, and reads:
#Orthognaticsurgery can help you achieve the version of you that you want to be. Contact our specialists for a personalised study of your case.
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it was on his instagram, and the result is not on his website.
Heres a link to his instagram https://www.instagram.com/maxillofacialbcn/
The full post can be found here. Any context found was negligible. The caption is the only applicable context, and reads:
#Orthognaticsurgery can help you achieve the version of you that you want to be. Contact our specialists for a personalised study of your case.
Wow. He really works it on social media.
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(https://imgur.com/a/lS61ddV)
Photoshop? Lighting? Makeup?
I feel its disingenuous for surgery centers to post before and afters like this. It looks to me like she got an amazing result regardless of the trickery.
https://imgur.com/a/lS61ddV
Outright bogus.
Easy to tell.
Compare the horizontal distance from the centerline of her neck to the outer edge of her jaw in the picture at left - - then do the same with the picture at the right.
On the left, she has a thick neck compared to her facial dimensions. Very different on the right.
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This is utter rubbish. Even without jaw surgery and the right make-up and filters etc. you could have made the girl on the left look pretty.
It's not even trickery, the girl was pretty and made to pose dull and photographed front on. The second is just what every ugly-ho instagram model does to make themselves look hot. This isn't even worth talking about.
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This is utter rubbish. Even without jaw surgery and the right make-up and filters etc. you could have made the girl on the left look pretty.
It's not even trickery, the girl was pretty and made to pose dull and photographed front on. The second is just what every ugly-ho instagram model does to make themselves look hot. This isn't even worth talking about.
She did have jaw surgery though
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She did have jaw surgery though
Yeah fine, and probably has a decent result from that. But it's not what make that after pic look so glam. Its the manipulation, make-up and rest.
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Yeah fine, and probably has a decent result from that. But it's not what make that after pic look so glam. Its the manipulation, make-up and rest.
Setting people up to be very disappointed in his surgery. But I guess that's OK with him, the gunson-level prices he likes to charge US patients probably helps him afford lawsuits.
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Really hate when results are portrayed like this. Super disingenuous.
Why do surgeons not keep things consistent? well some do but cases like this are just awful. No consistency at all between the pictures.
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Really hate when results are portrayed like this. Super disingenuous.
Why do surgeons not keep things consistent? well some do but cases like this are just awful. No consistency at all between the pictures.
I think the answer is simple.
Really good surgeons who have solid practices - - do not do that.
You have to have a fundamentally "dishonest" state of mind (character) to do that.
Secondary to that overriding issue, the legitimate board certification organizations ALL have ethical rules that clearly state that presenting results in unrealistic manner, is an ethical violation.
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She did have jaw surgery though
Implying that jaw surgery fixes other parts of the face.
And people overestimate the kind of aesthetic improvements they can get from jaw surgery.
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How did her eyes go from negative canthal tilt to positive. Seems fake to me.
Just the angle. Even for me, at times if taking a picture of my eye area with the head pointing slightly down, my canthal tilt ends up looking positive while straight up its negative-neutral.
Classic case of surgeons (AKA phony frauds) displaying their best. Wonderful.
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Really hate when results are portrayed like this. Super disingenuous.
Why do surgeons not keep things consistent? well some do but cases like this are just awful. No consistency at all between the pictures.
How else can they get desperate ugly people to come in under the illusion that the surgeons would do anything substantial to their face other than giving clichey advice rather than innovating the future? They gotta make money some how selling their modern day snake oil to get these ugly people to throw money at them as a "its worth a shot at least."
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His site lists that he also does COSMETIC SURGERY (in addition to maxfax). I guess the photo on instagram is sort of a 'come on' so you ask him what she got. She probably got additional cosmetic procedures other than the jaw surgery.
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His site lists that he also does COSMETIC SURGERY (in addition to maxfax). I guess the photo on instagram is sort of a 'come on' so you ask him what she got. She probably got additional cosmetic procedures other than the jaw surgery.
She may or may not have gotten a rhinoplasty too. But point is that there IS certainly some frauding done in the "AFTER" pic.
I'm familiar with the phenomenon that just tilting a head does for eye area in pictures. I've noticed the difference myself when taking pictures of my own face. And its kind of obvious that the angle of the camera is different in addition to makeup added to have a nice skin tone that she has in the after along with better hair also creating an illusion.
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She probably got additional cosmetic procedures other than the jaw surgery.
Just for the record, there are probably cheaper options for cosmetic procedures such as hair and makeup than to hire a surgeon for this :)
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https://www.institutomaxilofacial.com/en/caso-clinico/anna/
She's now on his site with more consistent presentation. OP's after picture was probably sourced from her personal IG with the background cropped out.
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https://www.institutomaxilofacial.com/en/caso-clinico/anna/
She's now on his site with more consistent presentation. OP's after picture was probably sourced from her personal IG with the background cropped out.
My post was from instituto maxiofacials official instragram. They must have smartened up and posted the result the way they did. Anyone with half a brain can catch that manipulation. I see it all the time from ID hospital in south korea.