because he has a track record on these forums and he is the only orthodontist (or should i say orthotropist?) who is recommending non surgical manipulation of the maxilla transversally or sagitally on adults when it has been proven beyond any doubt that this is not possible.
You don't need the maxilla moved forward. your nasolabial angle is obtuse already because your nose is upturned. an upturned nose indicates slight maxillary prognathism. Your maxilla also projects beyond the nasion, which also means it's already more forward than normal. Your chin is well proportioned and its projection is well within normal range, in your morph it looks like the head of a penis. Do you want to shell out 6k Euro and risk permanent nerve damage to your face to have a penis sticking out of your face? chin wing is a full circumference cut around the mandible, riskiest facial surgery out there.
Your midface doesn't lack projection. You look like you are from the netherlands or england, people there generally don't have prominent cheekbones / zygomatic arches. You look like you are supposed to look like and your profile is attractive, no reputable surgeon would operate on you which leaves only the quacks that would probably ruin your face.
That's actually really good insight, appreciate your time... If my nose is upturned from overgrowth of the maxilla that probably means moving it more forward would turn me into literally the Grinch or something! Not sure why this was suggested to me.
@ Piccoloprincipe15, I hear you on the midface. Osteotomy sounds a bit extreme as I believe this is to do with cutting and shifting bone? Can't find much information on it either. On this very forum I heard there isn't much information available on the topic because it's mostly "syndrome people" who have had it done. But implants sound like a very simple and easy solution, or even filler work.
I know somebody who had a wrap-around orbital rim implant which extended around the sides, maybe I could look into that.
I do want a chin implant, I think the morph might be a bit extreme (like a penis as mentioned) compared to a result that will look good and natural in real life, so maybe be a bit more economical... Very slight advancement on GIMP is aesthetically pleasing, and using my fingers to project it forward a couple of millimetres looks nice in the mirror. The mandible could also be better but I'd have to consult a surgeon first. I think these are easy to fix. I am looking into implants as fillers get expensive year after year especially to make such drastic changes, nose is easier to do.
I think this guy has a similar "before" except I have less fat and my maxilla and chin are more forward to start with:
