I mean i just turned 22 and im not THAT deformed, my maxillary complex is just dropped down and back from having an un-used palate expander in during puberty (parents divorced and my mom didnt care about my teeth but wouldn't take me to get it taken out so i did it my self at 17 but the damage was done) my chin is now recessed and my bite is very uncomfortable so I'm going to try adress that surgically but for the rest im hoping a more holistic approach can help me. (Oral posturing,non surgical palate expansion, and 16 hr face pulling) lisa already contacted mew and he said he wouldn't do long distance treatment so as far as the face pulling thing i might have to attempt my own device.