Midface hypoplasia

[CK]

what are your thoughts on the second guy?

[pekay]

what are your thoughts on the second guy?

don't like it

nose widened, philtrum went from flat-ish to convex, tear through depression is now much more prominent and he gained minimal paranasal projection

[pekay]

did a quick (correction) morph and honestly in the grand scheme of things the difference is minimal

[CK]

dont think it's luck.

edit: third guy? you mean second?

[Heavyweight]

alright found a bunch of before/afters that showcase mid-face deficiencies (everyone had a Le Fort 1 + some form of grafting)

I really don't like this guy's results. I think his upper jaw was advanced too far, which looks unnatural and washes out all the definition in his face.

[pekay]

That's an easy fix with fillers

fillers have a short shelf life and can easily become an expensive habit

Looks like he had lower jaw implants too.

No implants at all -> "With the mandibular setback comes an improvement in the contour of the gonial angle."

Here is the URL for the entire sciencedirect page: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0094129807000697

[CK]

i think he looks great. not sure how it could have been better.

[Heavyweight]

i think he looks great. not sure how it could have been better.

I think he looked a lot better before surgery.

[Lazlo]

I really don't like this guy's results. I think his upper jaw was advanced too far, which looks unnatural and washes out all the definition in his face.

seriously, what happened here. goes to show jaw surgery doesn't always lead to an aesthetic improvement as one doctor warned me. he looks incredibly worse off after, so sad.

[Lazlo]

I think he looked a lot better before surgery.

i almost have a feeling in his case the advancement was done too low and gave him this weird full mouth bulgy cheek look and that clashes with the really shallow cheekbones. His upper face/cheekbones needed to be advanced or the advancement should have been done much higher. this is a really scary and cautionary example i feel.

[x]

His upper face/cheekbones needed to be advanced or the advancement should have been done much higher. this is a really scary and cautionary example i feel.

Unfortunately higher cuts only increase invasiveness exponentially

Once again a case in point in how spacing of features can be critical to final results

[Modigliani]

i think he looks great. not sure how it could have been better.

Agreed, he looks much improved to me.

[Lazlo]

it has to do with the profile line from his forhead to his nose and chin which was actually quite balanced before. the upper advancement really made that line more obtuse. And from the front he now has this really oblong/rectangular bottom heavy look to his face.

[CK]

objectively he looks much better imo.

[stupidjaws]

he does. i agree. first he looks like an ugly version of BASTIAN SCHWENSTEIGER or VLADO PETKOVIC