Forward Head Posture

[trigeminalneuralgia]

this is a good, simple picture of how important serratus anterior is (the bottom electrode)

http://www.massage-research.com/blog/?p=564


These results suggest that maintaining NHP is advantageous in reducing sustained upper and lower trapezius activity and enhancing serratus anterior activity as compared with FHP during loaded shoulder flexion.
nhp=neutral head posture

so when i went to pt for my shoulders i had awful FHP which nobody was addressing due to stupid health insurance restrictions...and yeah i couldn't strengthen at all. 

[trigeminalneuralgia]

ugh ive been busting my ass exercising.  i think the only place i can gain muscle is around my stomach

like i do all these cable rows and my shoudler wings less but then i stop exercising, go about my day and the stupid thing starts winging again

[trigeminalneuralgia]

i found a good lower trap exercise!! (these are hard to come by!!)

physical therapy guru- lower trap pull

some of his exercises suck but that one doesnt

[trigeminalneuralgia]

been looking at collarbones, i think the angle of you collarbone can say how messed up your posture/ shoulders are

my unstable shoulder has a really angled collarbone



^ mine sticks out at the top of my shoulder like that.

this guys collarbone is really angled like mine and he dislocated his ac joint



the flatter collarbones to me look healthier

[x]

Going to inquire to my ENT about this today, to see how this posture can be corrected, as I can see it doing major strain on your neck/shoulders over a long period.

I'm thinking I have a small airway passage, that has forced my head into a forward posture to be able to take in extra air. This also fits with both my jaws being recessed, so again it all leads back to the airway being too small.

[x]

Ok I've made a concerted effort to nose breathe only today and 3 things I notice from it:

1. It improves my posture without any effort on my part.
2. It leaves me short on breath even after short walks.
3.  My mouth gets really moist when it's closed and clenched all the time, so I have to swallow saliva like every 3 seconds

[trigeminalneuralgia]

i think im not mouth breathing but then i realize i have to take a BIG sigh every so often and it feels a little too good

[x]

I take it both of you have retrognathia of the upper and lower jaw as well?

[Marisama]

Something like that.

[trigeminalneuralgia]

i hope these pics work, theyre how to tell if your shoulders are depressed 
Fig. 1. Subject with normal shoulder. Superior angle of the scapula (SAS) and lateral border of the acromion (A) were on the same level or above spinal process of the second thoracic vertebra (SP2).



Fig. 2. Subject with depressed shoulder. Superior angle of the scapula (SAS) and lateral border of the acromion (A) were below spinal process of the second thoracic vertebra (SP2).

my shoulders actually look like the second person's so i guess they're depressed
crazy.  hers wing like mine too
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1090380107005812

[trigeminalneuralgia]

http://www.youtube.com/user/OPTIMPhysTher

this is like what my PT does to help with cervical/thoracic pain.  its awesome.  NOT the same as a massage, but manual therapy

[trigeminalneuralgia]

Contralateral Limb Raise Video.wmv

this is the pilates bird dog..i just tired it..it's hard!

i wouldn't do the progressions which involve hyperextending your back.  im really against hyperextension.  just seems like a bad idea

[trigeminalneuralgia]

my shoulders are winging less!!  i can see it.  i am doing face pulls at shoulder height with resistance bands

still have a loooooooooooooong way to go

[Kristen]

my shoulders are winging less!!  i can see it.  i am doing face pulls at shoulder height with resistance bands

still have a loooooooooooooong way to go

What is that?

[trigeminalneuralgia]

i am trying to find a decent video

some of them you see doing actual FACE pulls where the resistance band is at the height of your head, this sets off the wrong muscles for me so i do it shoulder height which is a little lower

like this guy but one arm at a time *start at 30 seconds*

http://youtu.be/00mRajqLPZc?t=38s


as opposed to this (too high)

http://youtu.be/wTvC3mwcWbc?t=41s