Shortening midface....AH MAYBE ONE DAY....

[geijutsu]

what did you think of her morphs and analysis? was it worth the price she charges?

brb doing that measurement on my own face 

Well I think that she's very knowledgable that's for sure, but she also tends to not go overboard with her consultations, for example for our initial consultation, she recommended that I get implants that were off-the-shelf, her recommendation was really good for what implants can do, that's for sure, but being a neurotic prick, I knew that this isn't exactly what I was hoping for, so I was underwhelmed with the morphs and her implants suggestions.

She later sent me another morphs few months later for free when she saw me babbling about how jaw surgery is superior to implants in one of the threads, I'd say that at this point I was really impressed with the morph and she really doesn't just use the warp tool and move things around, she makes all the changes acording to where the distraction will take place.

I'd say that initial the consult gave me a very good platform to start doing my own reserch since I was a total noob when I first approached her.

Good luck with the measurement btw, try to use both approaches and let me know how it turned!

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Well I think that she's very knowledgable that's for sure, but she also tends to not go overboard with her consultations, for example for our initial consultation, she recommended that I get implants that were off-the-shelf, her recommendation was really good for what implants can do, that's for sure, but being a neurotic prick, I knew that this isn't exactly what I was hoping for, so I was underwhelmed with the morphs and her implants suggestions.

She later sent me another morphs few months later for free when she saw me babbling about how jaw surgery is superior to implants in one of the threads, I'd say that at this point I was really impressed with the morph and she really doesn't just use the warp tool and move things around, she makes all the changes acording to where the distraction will take place.

I'd say that initial the consult gave me a very good platform to start doing my own reserch since I was a total noob when I first approached her.

Good luck with the measurement btw, try to use both approaches and let me know how it turned!

Yeah that was my opinion too based on one conversation we had. She definitely knows her stuff, but it was no 'insider knowledge' that only she had or something, much of it I already knew from general research I've been doing for months. So for a noob to this stuff, I can definitely see the price being worth it. But I bet should could help recommend PS procedures since I've spent zero time researching that

I need to find a high quality pic of me looking dead-on first. what ratio did you get for your face? I think mines going to be on the longer end

[geijutsu]

My ratio's 0.98:1 which is basically 1:1 really.

[x]

My ratio's 0.98:1 which is basically 1:1 really.

huh

I got 0.87:1 but I only used a crappy webcam photo with probably distortion

I have wide spaced eyes though which is probably why my number is so low

ok scratch that I was doing it wrong, 0.95:1 is what I get

[geijutsu]

Good for you!

Just to go over it quick, the horizontal line should be from the outer orbit of the pupil to the other outer orbit of the other pupil, the vertical line should be from the midline of the horizontal line all the way to the line where both lips meet, basically making a T line, now devide the vertical line overr the horizontal line to get your ratio, I use a program called screenscales to make the measurement, comes in handy.

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Enhancements/Other-Desktop-Enhancements/Screen-Scales.shtml

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Good for you!

Just to go over it quick, the horizontal line should be from the outer orbit of the pupil to the other outer orbit of the other pupil, the vertical line should be from the midline of the horizontal line all the way to the line where both lips meet.

yeah first time I messed up in using the very edge of the eyes lol. second time I got it right

you said 1:1 is ideal? I just don't get it cause my face looks anything but short so something else is contributing to the length, might be the length in my mandible. my wide-spaced eyes save my face from looking LOOOONG

[geijutsu]

It could very well be your lower third that's long rather than your actual midface, try using the program that I posted the link to and see if you get similar ratios.

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It could very well be your lower third that's long rather than your actual midface, try using the program that I posted the link to and see if you get similar ratios.

you can do it for free here http://pixlr.com/editor/

[geijutsu]

Look at that, that really will come in handy, thanks.

The program I posted isn't an editor btw, it's a scale to meaure the lines, you know rather than sticking a ruler on your computer screen, lol.

[x]

Look at that, that really will come in handy, thanks.

The program I posted isn't an editor btw, it's a scale to meaure the lines, you know rather than sticking a ruler on your computer screen, lol.

no problem sir

what's your story with jaw issues?

[geijutsu]

Well, I have no malocclusion to speak of since I had my bite corrected years ago by the orth, only problem is like most members here, my ortho f**ked me over by taking 4 teeth out and pulling everything inwards, what's even more outraging is that I didn't need extractions even by traditional orthodontics sense, I have gone to several dentist when I was a kid and none required to pull my tooth out, as I didn't have any crowding just "bunny teeth", this jerk however thought it's a better shortcut to pull everything out to make his job easier.

[icatz]

hello, This topic is great I was searching for information on jaw surgery movements that make the philtrum look shorter because mine is a bit long and surgeon wants to reduce my chin. I think proportionally this is gonna make my philtrum looks even longer. Im doing mostly for aesthetics. 

 is there any movement on the upper jaw that would make the philtrum less flat an long? If he rotates my upper jaw counterclockwise and advances it a bit, would it make philtrum longer or shorter?

[Charles-Guillaume]

Rather than attempting to shorten the midface (especially if you're a guy), I would argue that ought to opt for moving the eyes apart (unless the face truly is abnormally long). This would accomplish the illusion of a shorter midface.

[Charles-Guillaume]

sure. just undergo a rare osteotomy reserved for crauzons,  discard a textbook leforti impaction and end looking like a freak. it will work especially if you are a guy.

Sarcasm aside, is there any reason why this wouldn't work? Dr. Sinn supposedly performs orbital rim osteotomies that may widen PD by a few mms.

The reason that I cannot have impaction is that my maxilla is in its ideal position already. Moreover, decreasing (average) midfacial height will give one a smaller face, which isn't exactly ideal for masculine dimorphism.

[Lazlo]

Sarcasm aside, is there any reason why this wouldn't work? Dr. Sinn supposedly performs orbital rim osteotomies that may widen PD by a few mms.

The reason that I cannot have impaction is that my maxilla is in its ideal position already. Moreover, decreasing (average) midfacial height will give one a smaller face, which isn't exactly ideal for masculine dimorphism.

Hey Charles-Guillaume, have you consulted with Sinn? When you go to Texas take me a long, there are tons of fun things to do there like go to gun ranges and really hot chicks and beautiful countryside. I loved hanging in Texas. Let's f**king do this! Widen IPD, shorten midface, get perfect jaws!!! Sinn even does chin-wing so I'm hoping to get it done. My date it looks should be around mid-September. I swear to god, I'm gonna break down crying if this f**king surgery works and I can take these f**king braces off finally.